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Notes:

1860 census, Barry, pg 101/110, Daniel 32, Harriet 32, Josiah 7, Mary Ann 4
1870 census, Barry, Daniel 42, Harriet 41, Jesse 18, Mary A 16, Elias Mattern 16

Jesaias (Josiah) 1852, sp parents (at Kimmel)

death certificate says:
5Oct 1827 - 4 Sep 1907
widower
father Danial Smith, born Penna
mother Harriet Wetzel, born Mahantonga

informant Josiah Smith, Deep Creek or Higgins __?

No doctor or corroner, fell from back of mule on head either a fracture of skull or of spine

The problem is that Harriet Wetzel was this Daniel's wife.So the "mother" spot
is filled in with his wife. That begs the question of whether the informant Josiah
was thinking of his father (ie, Daniel) when they filled in that, or the deceased Daniel's
father. It's not clear to me that this is enough evidance to say that Daniel's father
was a Daniel Senior.

The one letter from Jesse Smith (who went to Ohio) referred to "Daniel Smith's boys"
which I had already guessed was the father of the nearby Barry Twp boys. So
I was happy to see Daniel Smith listed as the father of this Daniel. Still, as mentioned
above, I have reservations on accepting this theory yet.

Daniel married Harriet WETZEL 6 Jul 1851, Barry Twp, Schuylkill Co, PA. Harriet was born 5 Aug 1829; died 20 Jun 1891, Barry Twp, Schuylkill Co, PA. [Group Sheet]

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Notes:

don't know the father's name. I'm guessing the name is Daniel Smith now. Also
guessing that he's a son of Melchior Schmidt. It would seem like this could
be the father of "Daniel Smith's boys" in the letter from Jesse Smith. But if
he was referring to a brother, I doubt he'd have mentioned the last name. Perhaps
Daniel Smith was a cousin of John and Jesse?

see notes on death certificate for Daniel Smith 1827-1907. It is filled out
by Daniel's son Josiah Smith, but has entries for the deceased with
father as Danial Smith and mother Harriet Wetzel. Harriet was the
deceased's wife, not mother. So was the father of deceased filled
out correctly or not?

1830, Norwegian, pg 136, Daniel Smith 20101-00002
1830, Norwegian, pg 137, Jonathan 1000 01-0110 01 (near Melchior)

1830, Pottsville, pg 133, Williams Smith, 10001-20001

1830, Barry, pg 063, Elisha, 1000 01-2000 1

1840, U. Mahantongo, pg 088, Elias

more onthis family is in "Mosers of Schuylkill" by G. Paul Moser, Route 5,
Box 510, Danville, PA 17821, in 1979. He describes the Smiths and that their
mother was a Baily. John Baily was the kids' uncle. Mary Werner was John's housekeeper.
The Smith origins were unknown but Paul brings up a Jacob Smith, Albany Twp
supervisor as being in the area of the early Baily's of Berks Co.

also note, in a letter from Jesse Smith (Ohio) to brother John, he asks where
"Daniel'sboys are". He also references a "John Smith" in the OH area who appears to
be a relative. Since he expects John Smith (recipient of letter) to know about Daniel's
boys, it would appear they were local in Schuylkill county.

Daniel married Susan BAILY Bef 1828, Schuylkill Co, PA. Susan was born 11 Feb 1800, PA; died 24 Apr 1868, Barry Twp, Schuylkill Co, PA. [Group Sheet]

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Notes:

1850 census, Barry, John Bailey 55, Mary Warner 30, Daniel Smith 22, lab, Jesse Smith 20,
Susan Bailey 50

will of John Bailey mentions Magdalena Werner single, and c/o Jesiah Smith (1877/79)

death recorded at Zion's in Ashland

other players in this puzzle burried at Kimmel:
John Baily, 8? Apr 1787 - 8 Oct 1879
Mary Werner, d/o George and Catharina, 17 Jan 1819 - 4 Jul 1890
(Maryis buried next to John Baily)

Susan's death is recorded at Ashland

The elder Bely/Baily/Beli/Boley/etc:
probably Martin, s/o Frantz of Albany Twp
maybe Jacob and Hannah, 1832
(1850 census, Jacob bc 1780, Hannah bc 1783, Barry Twp)
note a Catharina Bely married Gideon Merwine 1831
note a Anna Baily married Jacob Moser 1839

1870 census, John Bailey 82, and Anna Mariah 50 (#38.40)

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• Baptism: 15 Feb 1773, Oley Hill Church, Pike Twp, Berks Co, PA
• Unknown: Abt 1822, Norwegian Twp, Schuylkill Co, PA; Migrated
• Unknown: Abt 1832, Stark Co, OH; Migrated
• Unknown: Abt 1840, Tully Twp, Van Wert Co, OH; Migrated
• _UID: 3B1A31A4F24C417087033764F36FCDB42140

Notes:

*NOTE: I'm not really sure that Melchior is the son of Nicholas Smith. That
is just a guess for now
*NOTE: OK, now I'm leaning toward being a son of a John and Magdalena
*NOTE: OK, now I'm leaning toward a son of John and Elisabeth
*NOTE: now I'm back to Nicholas
* November 2000 - got will of Elisabeth, single d/o Nicholas and Eve. Mentions
her siblings Melchior and Frantz. Now I'm convinced this is the right family after all.

1800 census, Alsace, pg 553, 20010-01010 (two children between 1797 and 1800 ?)
1810 census, Exeter, pg 772, 40020-02001
1820 census, Alsace, pg 209, 210001-21010
1830 census, Norwegian Twp, pg 137, 0001 011-0022 001

1840 ??
?? Hartley Twp, Union Co, PA 1001 0101-2100 1000 01

1810 census, by Catharine Rapp, widow 00100-00101 and
Henry Rapp 21010-21010
1820 census, by Daniel Shaffer and John Boyer
note pg 208 has Widow Smith 010000-00001

sp (Melchior w/Barbara Papp) -> 1794, Peter Schmitt and wf [Sophia Papp] (Schwartzwald)
sp (Melchior w/Magdalena Papp) ->1797 Johannes Dautrich and Catharine [Papp] (1st Ref)

sp - 1803, John Schmitt and Magdalena
sp - 1804, Johann Schmitt and Maria Magdalena
sp - 1809, Johannes Bob and Catharine
sp - 1811, Henry Brautigam and Med (Magd.?) [Mayer, married 1789)

tombstone says died 1849, age 75.

despite the slight difference in birth dates between the baptism and tombstone for
John Smith (which tombstone doesn't exist now), I think Melchior is the likely father.
Consider:

- the county history describes John Smith as being an early boat builder and carpenter
in Pottsville (which was part of Norwegian Twp originally).
- there was aMelchior Smith in Norwegian Twp in 1830 (census).
- a Henry Smith appears in nearby Barry Twp at that time. This Henry later appears
in Van Wert Co, OH. County histories there talk about them going from PA to Stark Co
and then to Van Wert. Henry's wife and Melchior and Dorothy are all buried together
(no stone for Henry).
- a letter exists from Jesse Smith to brother John Smith (in possession of a decendent
of John) mentioning "Henry" who is out in Ohio with him and appears to be a brother.
Jesse also mentions going back to "see the place" in Pottsville one more time.
- a marriage record appears for Jesse Smith and Nancy in Stark County (matching the
names in the 1850 census of Van Wert and the location of Henry Smith, as if they all
moved together to Startk Co and then Van Wert).
- Melchior Smith and Dorothea have several children baptized in the Reading area,
including a John (at the time this one would have been born) and a Joseway (Jesse?).
There is a gap in known baptisms where Henry's birth would fit. Also, the sponsor of a
Catharine Smith to Henry in 1831 would fit the Catharine d/o Melchior.
- In summary, it appears that Melchior was the father of all these people and that
he moved to Ohio, leaving at least John behind (or maybe John went and came back).
It's still not clear where some of theSmiths mentioned in Jesse's letter fit in (ie, John
and Daniel's kids).

Note: I wonder if the marriage at Trinity, Nicholas Schmidt to Dorothea Schmidtin
on 12 May 1799 could be a typo - maybe it's really Melchior?? There is no Nicholas in
any other church records of this time or the 1800 census. was it s/o Nicholas?

Chronology of Peter and Melchior Smith (likely brothers):
Petermarries Sophia Bapp in 1793 in Alsace Twp
Melchior shows up by 1794. Seems to also befriend the Papp family
Melchior married by 1800 it seems

note - a John Smith, estate of 1845, Ohio, recorded in Berks County.

Melchior married Dorothy UNKNOWN Between 1797 and 1802, Berks Co, PA. Dorothy (daughter of Johannes SCHMIDT and Maria Magdalena UNKNOWN) was born 19 Jun 1778, PA; died 27 Sep 1848, Tully Twp, Van Wert Co, OH; was buried Sugar Ridge Cemetery, Tully Twp, Van Wert Co, OH. [Group Sheet]

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• _UID: F490BC6C1EAA43C4BAAE29F0269CF047F577

Notes:

note - a Christian and M Magd Schmidt had a Dorothy 13 Jun 1772

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• Probate: 9 Aug 1790, Berks Co, PA
• Will: 8 Jul 1790, Colebrookdale Twp, Berks Co, PA
• _UID: 6AA76EACC03D4DE6895DA198205F5878C936

Notes:

The children of Nicholas are listed here are purely speculative and just for testing purposes!!

Oley burial record says Nicholas Schmidt died Jul 17, 1790, aged 76-7-6
(->born c1714) a son of Sebastian Schmidt and wf Christina. I suspect the age is
off! I'm saying he was abt 56. 11 Dec 1713 (note, an adjacent death also has
age at death as 76).

1752 tax list, Oley (see internet) (is this the same Nicholas later in Colebrookdale?)
1754 tax list, Oley Twp, single, $9 (this would imply a young Nicholas).

1767 tax list, Colebrookdale, 91A, 1H, 2C, 2S, $2 (laborer)
1768 tax list, Colebrookdale, 50A, 1H, 1C, $2
1779 tax list, Colebrookdale, 50A, 1H, 1C, $135
1780 tax list, Colebrookdale, 90A, 2H, 2C, $6.10.0
1781 tax list, Colebrookdale, 90A, 2H, 2C, $1.3.11
1784 tax list, Colebrookdale, 90A, 2H, 2C, 11 people

1790 census (it seems mostof Colebrookdale is missing in the 1790 census!)

1810 census, Colebrookdale, pg 750, 00000-00101 (Eve, widow)

PAA 5:5, pg 150, Berks Militia, Cpt Lesher, 27 Aug 1776, Pvt Nicholas Smith
(he is probably not 63 years old here!)

(and Maria Eva):
Christopher 1763, sp the parents (Oley Hill)
sp 1768 to Jacob Herb and Catharine [Hauck] (at New Hanover)
Sabina 1770, sp Jacob Herb and wf Catharine [Hauck] (at Oley Hill)
Melchior 1773, sp Melchior Endlich and Maria ("because it was very sick")
Christine Elisabeth 1778, sp John Becker and wf[Christine Hauck?]

Nicholas and Maria Elisabeth (I think this is a typo/misprint - should be M Eva)
M Catharine 1768, sp the parents (at Oley Hill) (is this the wrong wf name in record?)

(note Melchior Endlich was at Oley Reformed in 1772, sp Michael Buch,
1773, sp Anna Maria Wertz) (also Entlich, Indlich, etc)

Executors of will are Nicholas Imboty (married A. Marg Linn) and JohnKlotz

buried at Oley Hill:
Johannes Schmidt, 12 May 1789-16 Jan 1882 (related?)

Deed A2:204 has Nicholas Smith selling land to Peter Smith, 1761 (in Reading?), this family?
Deed B2:317 has Nicholas Smith and wife selling land toMichael Algeier
in Reading 1767/75. This family?

a Nicholas Schmidt on Brotherhood 3 Nov 1750

http://www.genforum.com/schmidt/
http://www.genforum.com/smith/

Nicolas married Maria Eva HAUCK Bef 1763, Berks Co, PA. Maria (daughter of Jacob HAUCK and Maria Elisabeth UNKNOWN) was born Abt 1741; died 1826, Colebrookdale Twp, Berks Co, PA. [Group Sheet]

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• Confirmation: 16 Apr 1756, Oley Hill Church, Pike Twp, Berks Co, PA
• Unknown: 1826, Berks Co, PA; LetAdmin
• _UID: 20C5F21259414F6ABC53CA75F96B875FD434

Notes:

administrator of estate was Peter Eshbach

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Notes:

Maybe I was right and Dorothy is a Schmidt (see Trinity records). Then John
and Magdalena are *her* parents and I still don't know parents of Peter and
Melchior (and Francis)

1800, Brecknock, pg 567, 20001-10001
1800, E District, pg 595, 20010-02010 (and Elis)
1800, Exeter, pg 598, 00001-00001 (old couple-no kids) (ie born 1755) (perhaps English)
1800, Ruscomb Manor, pg 655, 00001-00001
1800, Robeson, pg 658, 11040-40010-80

John and Maria Gertraut:
sp -> 1795, Elisabeth Schmitt and ?? (alone) (at Schwarzwald)

John single sp -> 1796, Philip Jones and Catharine (at Spies)
note - Philip Jones and wf had child 1793, at Old Gosh, sp Heinrich Schmidt and wf

John and Magdalena:
sp -> 1800, Jacob Roth and wf (x2) (Schwartzwald)
sp -> 1801, Jacob Roth and wf (Oley Salem)

sp -> 1802, Melchior Schimdt and Dorothea (Spies)
sp -> 1804, Melchior Schmidt and Dorothea (Trinity Lutheran)

are John and Magdalena the parentsof Peter, Melchior (and maybe Francis?)

Note:
at St. Peter's, N Whales (inUpper Gwynedd Twp), Montgomery Co:
John and Magdalena had:
Adam 1785, sp Adam Schmidt, grandfather
Hannah 9 Oct 1788 (vs Mar 17, 1790, buried at Kimmel)
Anna Margaretha 1793

Adam, grandfather also sp to Heinrich Schmidt and Elis 1788

But if John and Magdalena had these kids, and moved to Reading area
circa 1794, why aren't there kids in their household in 1800 census?

Johannes married Maria Magdalena UNKNOWN Bef 1770, Berks Co, PA. Maria was born Abt 1770; died PA. [Group Sheet]

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