Other Events:

• Baptism: 8 Sep 1776, New Bethel (Zion) Church, Grimville, Greenwich Twp, Berks Co, PA
• _UID: 336EF59D825448A7A060972F4E7A0A37C76A

Notes:

Carl 1806, sp Heinrich Hartman and Sara (at Lowhill)
Anna Maria 1810, sp Conrad Hartman and Magdalena
Johannes 1812, sp Johannes Dorr (at Lowhill)
sp -> 1812, Friedrich Schaeffer and Sara
sp -> 1814, Nicholas Derr and Elisabeth (at Weisenberg)
sp -> 1822, Johannes Rau and Rebecca
sp -> 1823, Christian Hartman and Gertraut (at Lowhill)

Anna married Jacob HARTMAN 25 Jun 1805, Lehigh Co, PA (Rev Helfrich). Jacob (son of Johan Heinrich HARTMAN and Anna Sarah UNKNOWN) was born Abt 1781, PA; died Aft 1850, Lowhill Twp, Lehigh Co, PA. [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• Baptism: 12 Jan 1735, Uengerhausen, Bavaria, Germany
• Unknown: 22 Aug 1765, Weisenberg Twp, Lehigh Co, PA; ES-599
• Unknown: 8 Feb 1769, Weisenberg Twp, Lehigh Co, PA; ES-3827
• Unknown: 18 Aug 1777, Lehigh Co, PA (4:149); US Oath
• Unknown: From 26 Oct 1780 to 1 Jul 1782, Pvt, Rev War, 6Th Bn, 8Th Co, 2/3Rd Classes, Northampton Co Militia; Military
• Unknown: 13 May 1795, Maxatawny Twp, Berks Co, PA; Henry Hinterliter
• Unknown: 18 Oct 1797, Greenwich Twp, Berks Co, PA; Salome Abelsen
• Immigration: 21 Nov 1764, PA ("Hero")
• _UID: 6D7620EC7AC44EAD9E0ED115B25AD5791455

Notes:

Name Suffix: Senior

(or US Oath 17 Aug 1777, 5:186)

Arrived on boat, with "brother" Lorents.

land draft: Weisenberg Twp, 8 Feb 1769, #118
land warrant, 15A, 12 May 1773??

6th Bn Northampton Co Militia, 8th Co, 2nd/3rd Classes, Pvt
26 Oct 1780 and 1 Jul 1782

1772 tax list, Weisenberg, $1.0.0 weaver
1773 tax list, Weisenberg (?and John Sr?) (see Hist of Northampton Coby Henry)
1776 tax list, Weisenberg
1779 tax list, Weisenberg, 60A
1780 taxlist, Weisenberg
1781 tax list, Weisenberg
1782 tax list, Weisenberg
1785 tax list, Weisenberg, 160A, 3H, 3C, $11.0 (also John Jr, 1C, $2.3?)
1786 tax list, Weisenberg, 150A, 3C, $2.6
1788 tax list, Weisenberg, 100A, 1H, 3C, $11.6
1789 log house=23x26, 1 floor, value=100 (same as 1798? record)

1790 census, Weisenberg Twp, Lehigh Co, 3-2-4
1800 census, pg 631, Weisenberg Twp, Lehigh Co, 00301-00200 (John, Sr)
1810 census, pg 48, (Jr and Sr?)
1820 census, pg 156, Weisenberg Twp, Lehigh Co

land app ES-3744, 30 Nov 1768, for 100 acres in Penn Twp, Carbon County?

sp - 1767 Johannes Becker [deacon] and Catharine (Ziegel)
sp - 1769 Lorentz Derr and Susanna Meiern [Meyer] single (Ziegel)

sp - 1771 John Adam Klein and Anna Maria (Weisenberg)
sp -> 1771 Lorentz Derr and Catharine, (Weisenberg Church)
sp -> 1771 Johan Adam Klein and Anna Maria, (Weisenberg Church)

sp - 1772 John Nicholas Warle and Christina Geringer(New Bethel)
sp - 1776 Johannes Maurer and Anna Maria (New Bethel)

sp (John) -> 1812 Jacob Hartman and Maria [Derr], Lowhill ??
sp (John and wf) -> 1813Nicholas Derr and Anna Maria, Zion New Bethel
(although supposedly the baptismal certificate says John, the grandfather, widower)

communicants at Zion New Bethel
1790, Lorentz and J Nicholas, Anna Maria, Johannes
1790, Johannes, Johannes (single)
1791, Johannes, Johannes (single), Anna Maria, and J Nicholas

Johannes - signed account, 31 Dec 1796
Johannes - Elder, 8 Jan 1797

at Ziegels, John Derr and Anna Catharine (perhaps wife number 1?)
John Henry /1767, sp Henry Derr (maybe born 1765??, else a conflict!)
(maybe the Henrich Derr 1766-1846, Rev Herman records)
at Ziegels, Henry Derr and Sybilla, Catharine, 1790, sp Killian Leiby and Catharine
at Ziegels, Henry Derr and Elisabeth (Leiby):
Samuel 1812, sp George Schmidt and Margaretha
Henriette 1816, sp John Derr and Magdalena Leiby single

witness to wills:
George Olt, Greenwich, Berks, 2 Jul 1795, Johannes Du:rr
Salome Abelsen, Greenwich, Berks, 1 Apr 1799, Johannes Durr
I checked the signatures and they are very good matches to the ship list signatures!!

History of Lehigh County, pg 1253, mentions Bernard Schneider of Lynn Twp on the
"John Derr farm"

In looking at the baptism, I can't make out who the parents are. This needs rechecked.

Land mentioned in estate of Gottlieb Eddinger, Weisenberg, OC 19 Oct 1803
On survey team, estate of Gottlieb Eddinger, OC 14 Nov 1803 (Olt John Derr)
On survey team, estate ofPaulus Pauli, Weisenberg, OC 10 Apr 1804
On survey team, estate of Christian Clauss, Lynn, OC 7 Oct 1805
On survey team, estate of Daniel Wirth, Weisenberg, OC 20 Nov 1812
Debit for estate of Daniel Kuntz, Lynn, OC 25 Apr 1809

German info from:
Paul J. Derr

Other John's??
1790 census, Greenwich Twp, JnoDerr, 1-3-3
note: a Christian Derr, single, Weisenberg, 1786, $1.6

a John Derr died in District Twp, Berks Co 1812. Admin to John and Henry, sons.

Deeds:
8:396, mentions John Derr got land in 1811, sold 1812 to Nicholas and Elisabeth,
sold then 1814 to Jacob Derr. Jacob and wf sell to George S Eisenhard31 Mar 1830
(Weisenberg)

35:748, mentions land, part of patent 28 Aug 1811, book HN (?) 6, page 3311 and 3312,
to John Derr. 10 Jan 1812, land was sold to Nicholas Derr and wf Elizabeth.
1 Apr 1814 they sold to Jacob Derr. (mentions this land is by other land of Jacob Derr).

Johannes married Margaretha UNKNOWN Bef 1767. Margaretha was born Abt 1744; died Aft 1795, Weisenberg Twp, Lehigh Co, PA. [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• _UID: 689EB9894FEC4C25A855966C02A3999DCEE5

Notes:

since there are no known older children, it's possible that Johannes married
in PA.

Having the first sponsor being a deacon may mean there were no relatives
around.

Ideas:

sp - 1767 Johannes Becker [deacon] and Catharine (Ziegel)
sp - 1769 Lorentz Derr and Susanna Meiern [Meyer] single (Ziegel)

sp -1771 John Adam Klein and Anna Maria (Weisenberg)
sp -> 1771 Lorentz Derr and Catharine, (Weisenberg Church)
sp -> 1771 Johan Adam Klein and Anna Maria, (Weisenberg Church)

sp - 1772 John Nicholas Warle and Christina Geringer (New Bethel)
sp - 1776 Johannes Maurer and Anna Maria (New Bethel)

John Adam Klein, supposedly s/o Philip Wendel Klein, immig 1744

Other Events:

• _UID: 8B6E4B4EE3244ED187232EFB560E5F126041

Notes:

big picture of Derrs (not sure if they're all really from this family!)

Melchior and Jacob both immigrate, c1744, both marry the same day in PA
Melchior moves to Lynn Twp, c1750-60
Rosina and Sebastian Werly immigrate 1753, later settle in Weisenberg, 1760
Jacob not in records in Montgomery Co, after 1763
John and Lorentz immigrate and shortly settle in Weisenberg, c1764
Valentine and Melchior are naturalized in Philadelphia, 11 Oct 1765

Lorentz moves to NC,c1772
Valentine moves to NC, c1774
Melchior Jr moves to NC

http://genforum.genealogy.com/derr

Wife Margar Hatchel? from worldconnect.