Other Events:

• Baptism: 6 Dec 1767, Ziegel Church, Weisenberg Twp, Lehigh Co, PA (Rev. Schumacher)
• Unknown: Bef 1800, Upper Mahanoy Twp, Northumberland Co, PA; Migrated
• _UID: F2A4CFA4288B48D7AFC81EA2D696C43A7C44

Notes:

Name Suffix: Junior

?1785 tax list, Weisenberg, 1C, $2.3 (John Jr)

1800 census, pg 704, Mahanoy, 10010-00100 (Dern)
1810 census, pg 256, Upper Mahanoy, 31010-20100
1815 tax list, Little Mahanoy (ref Bell's book)
1820 census, pg 031, Little Mahanoy, 311101-21110
1830 census, pg 208, Little Mahanoy

see Beers book on Schuylkill County, page 670:
Gabriel B Derr ... His grandfather, John Derr, was born in this State, where the family
has been established since the pioneer period, the earlier generations living in
Lehigh county for many years and moving thence to Northumberland county.
John Derr settled in the Shamokin valley in Northumberland county, remaining there
until his death. he was a shoemaker by trade and also followed farming. Besides
James, the father of Gabriel B. Derr, his children were:
Benjamin, tle eldest, who lived to be ninety-two years old;
Peter, the second, who died at the age of eighty-nine years,
Jacob, who attained the age of ninety;
George who died when fifty years old;
Kate;
Matilda;
Elizabeth, who reached the age of ninety-six years;
one that died in infancy;
and Mary.

James Derr, son of John was borin in the Shamokin valley in Northumberland
county in the year 1818, and moved thence to Schuylkill county,
settling int eh Mahantongo valley in 1836. ..."

summary, John and Magdalena:
James b 1818
Benjamin, oldest died at 92 (note, born 1806)
Peter at 89 (note, single in 1830)
Jacob at 90
George at 50 (note, born 1810, single in 1834)
Kate
Matilda
Elizabeth 96
one in infancy
Mary

at Friedens, John Durr and Mary Magdalena (maybe?):
sp -> 1792, Martin Kron and Magdalena (at Friedens)

son 1799, sp Adam Schleich and Catharine (Himmel church)
Magdalena 1801, sp Catharine Schleicher
Benjamin 1806, sp Lorence Derr and Catharine
sp -> 1807, Peter Maurer and Magdalena
M Magdalena 1808, sp John Schleich and Catharina Maurer
George 1810, sp George Schleich and Elisabeth Haas
Catharina 1812, sp Adam Schleich [Jr] and Catharine
sp -> 1813, Johannes Schleich and Magdalena
Jacob 1815, sp Anthony Wehry and Catharine [Howerter]
Jacob 1820, sp Jacob Weickel and wf, Maria T?
sp -> 1823, John Derr and Dorothea
sp -> 1828, Johannes Wetzel and Margaret
sp -> 1830, Peter Derr and Catharina

(also at Ziegels after this John left:)
John and Margaret/Rebecca: [Anna Margaretha Pleuler, 16 Dec 1806, by Rev Helfrich)
Stephen 1812, sp Michael Bemer and Elisabeth
Rebecca 1816/7, sp John Bleiler and Elisabeth

a John and Margaretha (Rebecca):
sp -> 1824, Jacob Weickel and Anna Maria (Howerters)
sp -> 1825, Johan Derr Jr and Dorothea

the son in 1799 is probably JohnDerr III who later married a Dorothea.

in WPA deaths, Magdalena, d/o John Derr, died 11 Sep 1830, aged 22, of Little
Mahanoy (ref Shamokin Canalboat newspaper).

Johannes married Maria Magdalena SCHLEICH Bef 1799, Northumberland Co, PA. Maria was born Abt 1767; died Aft 1810, Northumberland Co, PA. [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• Baptism: 12 Jan 1735, Uengerhausen, Bavaria, Germany
• Unknown: 22 Aug 1765, Weisenberg Twp, Lehigh Co, PA; ES-599
• Unknown: 8 Feb 1769, Weisenberg Twp, Lehigh Co, PA; ES-3827
• Unknown: 18 Aug 1777, Lehigh Co, PA (4:149); US Oath
• Unknown: From 26 Oct 1780 to 1 Jul 1782, Pvt, Rev War, 6Th Bn, 8Th Co, 2/3Rd Classes, Northampton Co Militia; Military
• Unknown: 13 May 1795, Maxatawny Twp, Berks Co, PA; Henry Hinterliter
• Unknown: 18 Oct 1797, Greenwich Twp, Berks Co, PA; Salome Abelsen
• Immigration: 21 Nov 1764, PA ("Hero")
• _UID: 6D7620EC7AC44EAD9E0ED115B25AD5791455

Notes:

Name Suffix: Senior

(or US Oath 17 Aug 1777, 5:186)

Arrived on boat, with "brother" Lorents.

land draft: Weisenberg Twp, 8 Feb 1769, #118
land warrant, 15A, 12 May 1773??

6th Bn Northampton Co Militia, 8th Co, 2nd/3rd Classes, Pvt
26 Oct 1780 and 1 Jul 1782

1772 tax list, Weisenberg, $1.0.0 weaver
1773 tax list, Weisenberg (?and John Sr?) (see Hist of Northampton Coby Henry)
1776 tax list, Weisenberg
1779 tax list, Weisenberg, 60A
1780 taxlist, Weisenberg
1781 tax list, Weisenberg
1782 tax list, Weisenberg
1785 tax list, Weisenberg, 160A, 3H, 3C, $11.0 (also John Jr, 1C, $2.3?)
1786 tax list, Weisenberg, 150A, 3C, $2.6
1788 tax list, Weisenberg, 100A, 1H, 3C, $11.6
1789 log house=23x26, 1 floor, value=100 (same as 1798? record)

1790 census, Weisenberg Twp, Lehigh Co, 3-2-4
1800 census, pg 631, Weisenberg Twp, Lehigh Co, 00301-00200 (John, Sr)
1810 census, pg 48, (Jr and Sr?)
1820 census, pg 156, Weisenberg Twp, Lehigh Co

land app ES-3744, 30 Nov 1768, for 100 acres in Penn Twp, Carbon County?

sp - 1767 Johannes Becker [deacon] and Catharine (Ziegel)
sp - 1769 Lorentz Derr and Susanna Meiern [Meyer] single (Ziegel)

sp - 1771 John Adam Klein and Anna Maria (Weisenberg)
sp -> 1771 Lorentz Derr and Catharine, (Weisenberg Church)
sp -> 1771 Johan Adam Klein and Anna Maria, (Weisenberg Church)

sp - 1772 John Nicholas Warle and Christina Geringer(New Bethel)
sp - 1776 Johannes Maurer and Anna Maria (New Bethel)

sp (John) -> 1812 Jacob Hartman and Maria [Derr], Lowhill ??
sp (John and wf) -> 1813Nicholas Derr and Anna Maria, Zion New Bethel
(although supposedly the baptismal certificate says John, the grandfather, widower)

communicants at Zion New Bethel
1790, Lorentz and J Nicholas, Anna Maria, Johannes
1790, Johannes, Johannes (single)
1791, Johannes, Johannes (single), Anna Maria, and J Nicholas

Johannes - signed account, 31 Dec 1796
Johannes - Elder, 8 Jan 1797

at Ziegels, John Derr and Anna Catharine (perhaps wife number 1?)
John Henry /1767, sp Henry Derr (maybe born 1765??, else a conflict!)
(maybe the Henrich Derr 1766-1846, Rev Herman records)
at Ziegels, Henry Derr and Sybilla, Catharine, 1790, sp Killian Leiby and Catharine
at Ziegels, Henry Derr and Elisabeth (Leiby):
Samuel 1812, sp George Schmidt and Margaretha
Henriette 1816, sp John Derr and Magdalena Leiby single

witness to wills:
George Olt, Greenwich, Berks, 2 Jul 1795, Johannes Du:rr
Salome Abelsen, Greenwich, Berks, 1 Apr 1799, Johannes Durr
I checked the signatures and they are very good matches to the ship list signatures!!

History of Lehigh County, pg 1253, mentions Bernard Schneider of Lynn Twp on the
"John Derr farm"

In looking at the baptism, I can't make out who the parents are. This needs rechecked.

Land mentioned in estate of Gottlieb Eddinger, Weisenberg, OC 19 Oct 1803
On survey team, estate of Gottlieb Eddinger, OC 14 Nov 1803 (Olt John Derr)
On survey team, estate ofPaulus Pauli, Weisenberg, OC 10 Apr 1804
On survey team, estate of Christian Clauss, Lynn, OC 7 Oct 1805
On survey team, estate of Daniel Wirth, Weisenberg, OC 20 Nov 1812
Debit for estate of Daniel Kuntz, Lynn, OC 25 Apr 1809

German info from:
Paul J. Derr

Other John's??
1790 census, Greenwich Twp, JnoDerr, 1-3-3
note: a Christian Derr, single, Weisenberg, 1786, $1.6

a John Derr died in District Twp, Berks Co 1812. Admin to John and Henry, sons.

Deeds:
8:396, mentions John Derr got land in 1811, sold 1812 to Nicholas and Elisabeth,
sold then 1814 to Jacob Derr. Jacob and wf sell to George S Eisenhard31 Mar 1830
(Weisenberg)

35:748, mentions land, part of patent 28 Aug 1811, book HN (?) 6, page 3311 and 3312,
to John Derr. 10 Jan 1812, land was sold to Nicholas Derr and wf Elizabeth.
1 Apr 1814 they sold to Jacob Derr. (mentions this land is by other land of Jacob Derr).

Johannes married Margaretha UNKNOWN Bef 1767. Margaretha was born Abt 1744; died Aft 1795, Weisenberg Twp, Lehigh Co, PA. [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• _UID: 689EB9894FEC4C25A855966C02A3999DCEE5

Notes:

since there are no known older children, it's possible that Johannes married
in PA.

Having the first sponsor being a deacon may mean there were no relatives
around.

Ideas:

sp - 1767 Johannes Becker [deacon] and Catharine (Ziegel)
sp - 1769 Lorentz Derr and Susanna Meiern [Meyer] single (Ziegel)

sp -1771 John Adam Klein and Anna Maria (Weisenberg)
sp -> 1771 Lorentz Derr and Catharine, (Weisenberg Church)
sp -> 1771 Johan Adam Klein and Anna Maria, (Weisenberg Church)

sp - 1772 John Nicholas Warle and Christina Geringer (New Bethel)
sp - 1776 Johannes Maurer and Anna Maria (New Bethel)

John Adam Klein, supposedly s/o Philip Wendel Klein, immig 1744

Other Events:

• _UID: 8B6E4B4EE3244ED187232EFB560E5F126041

Notes:

big picture of Derrs (not sure if they're all really from this family!)

Melchior and Jacob both immigrate, c1744, both marry the same day in PA
Melchior moves to Lynn Twp, c1750-60
Rosina and Sebastian Werly immigrate 1753, later settle in Weisenberg, 1760
Jacob not in records in Montgomery Co, after 1763
John and Lorentz immigrate and shortly settle in Weisenberg, c1764
Valentine and Melchior are naturalized in Philadelphia, 11 Oct 1765

Lorentz moves to NC,c1772
Valentine moves to NC, c1774
Melchior Jr moves to NC

http://genforum.genealogy.com/derr

Wife Margar Hatchel? from worldconnect.