Other Events:

• _UID: EE3C96533757484094D991048F09F80CC78C

Notes:

1880 census, Eldred, 18, with father (epileptic)
1890 census, Eldred, Kitty, with father

Other Events:

• Unknown: 14 Apr 1852, Eldred Twp, Schuylkill Co, PA (32 A, 141P, Deed 38:247); Bought_land
• Unknown: 6 Apr 1870, Eldred Twp, Schuylkill Co, PA (Deed Misc 22:277); Bought_land
• Occupation: Blacksmith, farmer
• _UID: BBD45278BB3740D49F1D850D4F4CE6EB19BE

Notes:

death recorded county record, pg 122

1850 census, Upper Mahantongo, John 23(blacksmith), Judith 22, Daniel 1mo

1860 census, pg 436/#1072/1117, Eldred Twp, John 32 (blacksmith $1000/$361),
Judy 31, Daniel 9, Carolus 7, William 6,Felix 4, John 3, Mary 2

1870 census, pg 330, Eldred, John 43, farmer $3000/800,
Priscilla 42, Charles 18, William 16, Felix 14, John 12, Mary 11, Sarah 10,
Catharine 8, Elizabeth 5, Lewis 2

1880 census, pg 23/3/187/#193/213, Eldred Twp, John 53 (farmer), Judith 52, Felix 24,
John 22, Catharine 18 epileptic, Elisabeth 15, Lewis 11

1890 census, Eldred Twp, John S 63 farmer, Judith _, Felix 35 laborer, Kitty

1900 census, Eldred #105, John S Oct 1827, M50, Judiah Jul 1828, 10/8 (with John H)

1910 census, #40/47, Judith is with son John H Smith, Judith 83, widow, speaks
only German, (10 children, 6 alive)

land:
Jacob M Hepler to John Smith Jr, 35:397, 1850, Up Mah.
John Smith to Samuel K. Klock, 109:110, 1869, Eldred

From the story on Daniel H. Smith in Biographies of Schuylkill County:
... a son of John S. and Judith (Herb) Smith, the father being a mechanic in Haas
during all his mature years. He was a master at his trade of blacksmithing and was
able to design and make anything within the sphere of his business....

John S. Smith was a Republican in political preferences, and a member of the
Church of God. Daniel H. Smith is the eldest of ten children born to his parents,
the others being Charles, of Ashland, Pa.; William, in Eldred township; Felix,
deceased; John, a farmer in Eldred township; Mary, of Mount Carmel;
Catherine, deceased; Lizzie, of Tower City, Pa.; Sarah, wife of William Beisel
of Shamokin, Pa, and Lewis, deceased.


Themiddle initial 'S' was for Schneider

Any chance he was in Civil War?
Pension for John S Smith, I 105th PA, Aug 1890, App 897532, Cert 887498
Enrolled 2/1/62 at Camp Jameson
mustered in 2/28/62 at Fort Lynn, PA
mustered out 7/11/65
age at enrollment 38
reenlisted 2/27/64 at Field Virginia
(company I from Jefferson County)
Cause of Death: of consumption

John married Judith HERB Bef 1850, Upper Mahantongo Twp, Schuylkill Co, PA. Judith (daughter of Daniel HERB and Elisabeth KLOCK) was born 19 Jul 1828, Upper Mahantongo Twp, Schuylkill Co, PA; died 3 Mar 1914, Haas, Eldred Twp, Schuylkill Co, PA; was buried 7 Mar 1914, Hepler's Church Of God, Pitman, Eldred Twp, Schuylkill Co, PA. [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• Baptism: 7 Sep 1828, Howerter's Luth Church, Upper Mahanoy Twp, Northumberland Co, PA
• _UID: F9D19C0C05FA4D728B852FE5A750BCF2F975

Notes:

Nickname: Julia

death certificate says parents were Daniel Herb and Solma Smith (!)
Information provided by Warren Erdman, the undertaker.

Other Events:

• Baptism: 15 May 1803, Spies Church, Alsace Twp, Berks Co, PA
• Unknown: Bef 1825, Eldred Twp, Schuylkill Co, PA; Migrated
• Unknown: 1 Mar 1843, Eldred Twp, Schuylkill Co, PA; Bought_land
• Unknown: 22 Feb 1844, Eldred Twp, Schuylkill Co, PA; Sold_land
• Unknown: 23 Mar 1858, Schuylkill Co, PA; LetAdmin
• Occupation: Carpenter
• _UID: 7DCC32696151423FB3CF46F2BED3E668B0EB

Notes:

OCCUPATION: carpenter, boat builder (in Pottsville), farmer

1830 census, pg068, Upper Mahantongo, 2100 01-0000 10

1840 census, pg 094, Upper Mahantongo, 1120 01-2100 01

[1850 census, pg 394, Upper Mahantongo, John 45, Magdalena 44, George 44,
Daniel 12, John 10, Justina 8, Adam 6, Samuel 4, James 2, Magdalena 1,
John=laborer)

1850 note:
(I don't believe that is the right JohnSmith family. Certainly the child listing does
not match this John and Magdalena at all (wrong names/ages), but also the
neighbors appear to be folks down in western U. Mahantongo Twp.
Perhaps John was off with family in Ohio since his father just died??)

Also - I looked at the original census (not just the abstract), to see if there was some
chance that the children's names were on adifferent page, or some other confusion,
and it looks like there was just another family in the area. Note that this person is
a laborer, while the John I'm looking for was a house builder, and farmer with his own land.

sp (Magdalena) -> 1822 Henrich Mattern and Esther [Snyder]
sp (Magdalena) -> 1822 John Schneider and Margaretha

sp - 1826, Henrig Mattern and Ester [Snyder] (on taufschein)
sp -> 1830 Benjamin Schneider and Catharina [Hepler]
sp -> 1840 William Stitzer and Lythia [Reiner]

In Schuylkill County Biography's, pg 456 onDaniel H. Smith

admin 5:387 (to Daniel Smith)

... The paternal grandfather of Daniel H. Smith was also named John Smith and was
among the pioneer carpenters and boat builders of Pottsville. He located in Eldred
township in an early day and both he and his son John S. were identified with the
development of that township, contributing their share toward its material growth and
prosperity. They owned farms which they tilled in connection with their mechanical
work.

a settlement for John's estate:
Know all men by these presents that___ John Smith, George Smith, Henry Smith,
Catharine? Smith, now intermarriedto Daniel Klinger, Hannah Smith intermarried to
Wm Morgan, Elizabeth Smith, and Mary Smith All Heirs and Legal Representatives
of John Smith late of Eldredtownship in the County of Schuylkill State of Pa
decd who died intestate we do hereby Acknowledge that we this day had and Received
of and from Daniel Smith Administrator of the estate of the said John Smith the Sum
of twenty five dollars & fifty cents Respectfully in full Satisfaction and payment of all such Sum or Sums of money share or shares purparts and dividing which was due
owing payable and belonging to us by any means whatsoever for or on account of our
or each of our full share part or dividend of the Real and personal estate of our said
father decd And therefore we do the above named heirs And legal representatives do
by these presents Release acqust and forever discharge the Said Daniel Smith
Administrator as aforesaid, his heirs executors and Administrators of and from the said
moneys coming to us of the estate aforesaid and of and from All actions Suits
payments accounts, discharges, claims and demands whatsoever for or by reason
thereof or of any other act matter cause or thing whatsoever from the beginning of the
world to this day of the date hereof by these presents in witness whereof we have
hereunto set our hands and seals this 30th day of December AD 1859. Witness
present - [none]
signed - Johannes __ Schmit ??
[blank line]
Heinrich S? Shmidt
lisabet X Shmidt
[blank line]

the copy of the above estate record shows that at some point, paper work was begun
to complete the estate. It looks like a "release" form, but was never signed by
everyone and for some reason was never completed and filed in the county courthouse.

Note discrepancy with tombstone. 11 Nov 1802 in baptism,
11 Dec 1803 from supposed tombstone reading (source Dr. Meiser)
(not sure if stone had birth date or age listed) I checked at the church
several times and the stoneis not standing (at Church of God).

Another d

Johannes married Magdalena SCHNEIDER Bef 1826, Upper Mahantongo Twp, Schuylkill Co, PA. Magdalena (daughter of Philip SCHNEIDER and Maria UNKNOWN) was born 1 Sep 1801, Greenwich Twp, Berks Co, PA; died Between 1840 and 1858, Eldred Twp, Schuylkill Co, PA. [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• Baptism: 15 Nov 1801, Zion (Moselem) Church, Richmond Twp, Berks Co, PA
• Confirmation: 1817, Howerter's Luth Church, Upper Mahanoy Twp, Northumberland Co, PA
• _UID: 095F035ED6994C8599B157E1AE9CAA159454

Notes:

I'm not sure if the tombstone at Zion is really this Magdalena or if it was his only wife.
Or this is the Magdalena, wife of John Smith in the 1850 census that is clearly a
different family? Everyone seems to assume that the one at Zion is this one.
But why was she buried at a different church? Could it be that the Magdalena,
d/o of Philip baptized in Greenwich Twp isn't this one (I think it is).

is this really the Magdalena Schmidt, wife of Johannes, buried at Zion, Pitman:
2 Dec 1803 - 24 Dec 1851? From my picture:

Machdlena?
????
Johannes Schmidt
Dec 2_ 1803
Dec 2(4?) Dec 1854
52 years, 22 days

(most is still hard to read)

Note - she definitely had died by the time the estate records came up in 1858. Had
she left John and been living in Barry Twp maybe (since many kids got married
there). I've tried to find John in the 1850census but can't find them anywhere.

Other Events:

• Baptism: 19 Nov 1797, Oley Hill Church, Pike Twp, Berks Co, PA
• Unknown: Abt 1805, Upper Mahanoy Twp, Northumberland Co, PA; Migrated
• Unknown: 18 Oct 1834, Upper Mahantongo Twp, Schuylkill Co, PA (89 A, 56 P, Deed 14:277); Bought_land
• Unknown: Between 1840 and 1850, Upper Mahanoy Twp, Northumberland Co, PA; Migrated
• Unknown: 30 Mar 1850, Upper Mahanoy Twp, Northumberland Co, PA (41 A, 15 P); Bought_land
• Unknown: 19 Apr 1850, Upper Mahanoy Twp, Northumberland Co, PA (41 A, 15 P, Deed Hh:583); Sold_land
• Unknown: 30 Mar 1869, Upper Mahantongo Twp, Schuylkill Co, PA (174 A, 137 P, Deed 109:110); Sold_land
• Occupation: Farmer, drover, distiller, inn keeper
• _UID: 3844A2C582EF48B2AF582FAAFE4C076BEA69

Notes:

Name Suffix: Junior

NC adm 5:467, +SC recs

1820 Census, pg 095, Upper Mahantongo, 1001 00-1010 0
1830 Census, pg 066, Upper Mahantongo, 1200 01-2110 01
1840 Census, pg 094, Upper Mahantongo, 1212 001-1110 001

1850 Census, pg 250, Upper Mahanoy, Daniel 54 farmer, $18000, Saloma 34,
Margaret 13, Felix 11, Franklin 8, Amelia 3, Hannah 1, Susan 6/12

1860 Census, pg 364/#435,Upper Mahanoy, Daniel 62, Inn Keeper, $20000/$3604,
Felix 21, Amelia 12, Hannah 11, Susanna 10, Daniel 10,
Sarah 9, Angeline 6, Catharine Romber 19 maid, Peter Snyder 19, farm hand
(no Salome)

he was a distiller, drover, and farmer in Eldred per History of SC. pg 338.

Communicant in Reformed register of Howerter's, 29 Oct 1820

Land Warrant, 100 Acres, Northumberland Co, 9 Feb, 1842

land:
Schuylkill County:
David Klock to Daniel Herb Jr, 14:371, 18 Oct 1834/23 Oct 1834, Upper Mah.
Daniel Herb est, 109:108-111,

orphans court docket 13:322, lists children of wife Salome (16 Mar 1868) who
are appointed guardians to collect their share of grandfather George Hepler's estate

sp - 1819 John Klock and Magdalena
sp - 1822 Peter Klock and Elisabeth
sp -> 1823 Hannes Dunkelberger and Lea
sp -> 1824 George Horner and Susannah [Herb]
sp -> 1824 Adam Herb [Sr] and Magdalena
sp - 1825 Daniel Herb and Sophia
sp - 1826 Samuel Herb and Catharina Hepler
sp -> 1826 Joseph Hessert and wf Eva [Herb]
sp - 1828 Judith Herb
sp - 1833 Heinrich Herb and Maria
sp -> 1834 Jacob Herb and Rebecca
sp - 1835 Johan Maurer and Magdalena
sp -> 1836 Jacob Engel and Sarah
sp -> 1836 Adam Slabig and Elisabeth [Klock]
sp - 1837 Jacob Herb and Rebecca
sp - 1839 Felix Maurer and Polly [Geist]
sp -> 1840 Isaac Herb and Rachel
sp -> 1847 George Kobel and Catharine
sp - 1848 parents
sp - 1849 parents
sp - 1850 parents
sp - 1842 John Maurer Jr and Abbe [Herb]

Deed 109:110 mentions selling 6/9ths part of
John Smith and Judith
Gideon W Snyder and Catharine K
Daniel Neishwender and Rebecca
Franklin K Herb and Lydia Ann
CharlesK Herb and Magdelane, all of Schuylkill County
Isaac Snyder and Elizabeth of Northumberland County
to Samuel K Herb

on same page is release of Emanuel Hepler and Mary
(I was told Mary was part of the same release - need to check page 109 to
verify)

Daniel married Elisabeth KLOCK Bef 1819, Upper Mahantongo Twp, Schuylkill Co, PA. Elisabeth (daughter of Johannes KLOCK and Maria Magdalena DUNKELBERGER) was born 19 Jun 1800, Upper Mahantongo Twp, Schuylkill Co, PA; died 8 Apr 1846, Upper Mahanoy Twp, Northumberland Co, PA; was buried Howerter's Church, Upper Mahanoy Twp, Northumberland Co, PA. [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• _UID: 5775E9E23AB14CF3A1FDFC8A4DDC3D17623F

Notes:

she died of typhoid fever. perhaps some of the children dying at that time
got it too. (note Johann died 4 days earlier)

Other Events:

• Baptism: 15 Feb 1773, Oley Hill Church, Pike Twp, Berks Co, PA
• Unknown: Abt 1822, Norwegian Twp, Schuylkill Co, PA; Migrated
• Unknown: Abt 1832, Stark Co, OH; Migrated
• Unknown: Abt 1840, Tully Twp, Van Wert Co, OH; Migrated
• _UID: 3B1A31A4F24C417087033764F36FCDB42140

Notes:

*NOTE: I'm not really sure that Melchior is the son of Nicholas Smith. That
is just a guess for now
*NOTE: OK, now I'm leaning toward being a son of a John and Magdalena
*NOTE: OK, now I'm leaning toward a son of John and Elisabeth
*NOTE: now I'm back to Nicholas
* November 2000 - got will of Elisabeth, single d/o Nicholas and Eve. Mentions
her siblings Melchior and Frantz. Now I'm convinced this is the right family after all.

1800 census, Alsace, pg 553, 20010-01010 (two children between 1797 and 1800 ?)
1810 census, Exeter, pg 772, 40020-02001
1820 census, Alsace, pg 209, 210001-21010
1830 census, Norwegian Twp, pg 137, 0001 011-0022 001

1840 ??
?? Hartley Twp, Union Co, PA 1001 0101-2100 1000 01

1810 census, by Catharine Rapp, widow 00100-00101 and
Henry Rapp 21010-21010
1820 census, by Daniel Shaffer and John Boyer
note pg 208 has Widow Smith 010000-00001

sp (Melchior w/Barbara Papp) -> 1794, Peter Schmitt and wf [Sophia Papp] (Schwartzwald)
sp (Melchior w/Magdalena Papp) ->1797 Johannes Dautrich and Catharine [Papp] (1st Ref)

sp - 1803, John Schmitt and Magdalena
sp - 1804, Johann Schmitt and Maria Magdalena
sp - 1809, Johannes Bob and Catharine
sp - 1811, Henry Brautigam and Med (Magd.?) [Mayer, married 1789)

tombstone says died 1849, age 75.

despite the slight difference in birth dates between the baptism and tombstone for
John Smith (which tombstone doesn't exist now), I think Melchior is the likely father.
Consider:

- the county history describes John Smith as being an early boat builder and carpenter
in Pottsville (which was part of Norwegian Twp originally).
- there was aMelchior Smith in Norwegian Twp in 1830 (census).
- a Henry Smith appears in nearby Barry Twp at that time. This Henry later appears
in Van Wert Co, OH. County histories there talk about them going from PA to Stark Co
and then to Van Wert. Henry's wife and Melchior and Dorothy are all buried together
(no stone for Henry).
- a letter exists from Jesse Smith to brother John Smith (in possession of a decendent
of John) mentioning "Henry" who is out in Ohio with him and appears to be a brother.
Jesse also mentions going back to "see the place" in Pottsville one more time.
- a marriage record appears for Jesse Smith and Nancy in Stark County (matching the
names in the 1850 census of Van Wert and the location of Henry Smith, as if they all
moved together to Startk Co and then Van Wert).
- Melchior Smith and Dorothea have several children baptized in the Reading area,
including a John (at the time this one would have been born) and a Joseway (Jesse?).
There is a gap in known baptisms where Henry's birth would fit. Also, the sponsor of a
Catharine Smith to Henry in 1831 would fit the Catharine d/o Melchior.
- In summary, it appears that Melchior was the father of all these people and that
he moved to Ohio, leaving at least John behind (or maybe John went and came back).
It's still not clear where some of theSmiths mentioned in Jesse's letter fit in (ie, John
and Daniel's kids).

Note: I wonder if the marriage at Trinity, Nicholas Schmidt to Dorothea Schmidtin
on 12 May 1799 could be a typo - maybe it's really Melchior?? There is no Nicholas in
any other church records of this time or the 1800 census. was it s/o Nicholas?

Chronology of Peter and Melchior Smith (likely brothers):
Petermarries Sophia Bapp in 1793 in Alsace Twp
Melchior shows up by 1794. Seems to also befriend the Papp family
Melchior married by 1800 it seems

note - a John Smith, estate of 1845, Ohio, recorded in Berks County.

Melchior married Dorothy UNKNOWN Between 1797 and 1802, Berks Co, PA. Dorothy (daughter of Johannes SCHMIDT and Maria Magdalena UNKNOWN) was born 19 Jun 1778, PA; died 27 Sep 1848, Tully Twp, Van Wert Co, OH; was buried Sugar Ridge Cemetery, Tully Twp, Van Wert Co, OH. [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• _UID: F490BC6C1EAA43C4BAAE29F0269CF047F577

Notes:

note - a Christian and M Magd Schmidt had a Dorothy 13 Jun 1772

Other Events:

• Baptism: 1 Apr 1770, Zion (Moselem) Church, Richmond Twp, Berks Co, PA
• Unknown: Abt 1803, Upper Mahantongo Twp, Schuylkill Co, PA; Migrated
• _UID: 8028C3D086594913956105B0D9677C5A37FA

Notes:

1800 census, pg 607, Greenwich, 10010-20010
1810 census, pg 825, Upper Mahantongo, 21000-30010 (widow of Philip)
1820 census, pg , Upper Mahantongo, 020000-1010-200 (Maria)
1830 census, pg 67, Upper Mahantongo, 1 age 50-60 (Maria, next to Frederick)

(in 1800 census, listed near Michael and Andrew Snyder)
(in 1800 census, listed next to Conrad Spohn and Samuel Sheffer)

sp (Philip w/Christina Hiegelman) -> 1791 Philip Mueller and wf Catharina

sp - 1801 Andreas Schneider and wf Magdalena

?this one? at Schwartzwald:
Philip, single sp -> 1794, Jacob Rahn and wf [Elisabetha Schneider of Windsor][M1789]

####################################################
I believe this is the right Philip in Berks County mainly because of:
- the good fit in the 1800 census, Greenwich
- it appears that Philip disappears from Berks County at the time this one shows
up in the tax listing of Mahantongo Twp
- he had a daughter Magdalena and a wife named Maria at the right time/place

####################################################
other Philips (Albany and Windsor Twps)
1800 census, pg 550, Albany, 11110-20010
1810 census, pg 605, Albany, 10010-42010

1800census, Windsor, 00010-31010 (near John Snyder)

at the Eck Church in 1795 with wife Margaretha (child Rebecca)
at the Eck Church in 1798 with wife Maria?(child Salome)

Philip of Windsor and Elisabeth Neuman, married Apr 9 1795 (at Schwartz.)

"Philip Snyder of Albany came from Bloomsburg, PA, ref Montgomery's Berks book, pg 678)"

1810 census, pg 637, Windsor, 20010-32010 (with John 00010-20010)
at Moselem in 1806 with wife Margaretha (son Philip)
probably son of John who died in 1805 in Windsor with sons Philip and John,
and sons in law Jacob and Adam Rahn (see above)

note - land records (this is the other Philip I think)
Berks Deed 18:31, 1798, John Snyder and Elizabeth to Philip Snyder
220.5 Acres, Patent 1 Dec 1739. 27 Apr 1783 to John Snyder. on Schuylkill
River, East Bank, N70E, 234p post, S20E, 132p stump, S70W 330p ash by river
up river 150p to beginning
####################################################

Philip married Maria UNKNOWN Bef 1795, Greenwich Twp, Berks Co, PA. Maria was born Abt 1775, PA; died Feb 1837, Upper Mahantongo Twp, Schuylkill Co, PA. [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• Probate: 1 Mar 1837, Schuylkill Co, PA
• Will: 28 Feb 1835, Upper Mahantongo Twp, Schuylkill Co, PA
• _UID: 984A7F97C7D14A54B7C521D49298575B7BB8

Notes:

http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/h/u/Angeleque-M-Shumway/GENE1-0 004.html
says her last name was Erb (but there were several Philip Schneider's aroundand
I don't see any Erb's in the area of this one).

some single Maria's inthe area (to check out):

1793 Maria Merklin (pg 233) (and 1794, pg 234)
1793 Anna Maria Adolphin (pg 234)
1795 Maria Engelin (pg 236 and 7) through Aug 27
1798 Maria Eckert (pg 238) this is too late

Maria Merkel born 17 Jan 1773 to Jacob and Maria Eva (Mayer)
but she married John Beck

Anna Maria Merkel born 1767, d/o Peter and Anna Catharina

but sp to Christian would suggest d/o George and Anna Christina

older man Conrad Spohn was listed before theirhousehold in 1800 (did they
live there?)

Anna Maria Bieber 1773, d/o Nicolaus
Anna Maria Christ 1774, d/o Valentin
Maria Mengel 1774, d/o Friedrich **
Anna Maria Bauer 1774? d/o George Michael
Anna Maria Humbert 1775, d/o George
Anna Maria Bauer 1776, d/o Jacob

Other Events:

• Baptism: 6 Mar 1763, Oley Hill Church, Pike Twp, Berks Co, PA
• Unknown: 29 Jun 1787, Colebrookdale Twp, Berks Co, PA (65.125 A, Patent 11:16, "Anything"); Bought_land
• Unknown: 7 Apr 1792, Colebrookdale Twp, Berks Co, PA (65.125 A, Deed 13:46); Sold_land
• Unknown: Abt 1804, Upper Mahanoy Twp, Northumberland Co, PA; Migrated
• Unknown: Bef 1805, Little Mahanoy Twp, Northumberland Co, PA ("Richland", How?); Bought_land
• Unknown: 17 Dec 1805, Little Mahanoy Twp, Northumberland Co, PA (Deed N:182); Sold_land
• Unknown: 15 Apr 1812, Northumberland Co, PA (116 A, 82 P, Deed R:109); Bought_land
• Unknown: 25 Feb 1813, Little Mahanoy Twp, Northumberland Co, PA ("Richland", 316.25 A + "Amsterdam", 92 A + Etc); Bought_land
• Unknown: 25 Mar 1813, Little Mahanoy Twp, Northumberland Co, PA (385 A, 115P, Deed R:473, "Richland" And "Amsterdam"); Sold_land
• Unknown: 25 Mar 1813, Northumberland Co, PA (116 A, 82 P, Deed R:454); Sold_land
• Unknown: 24 Mar 1815, Upper Mahantongo Twp, Schuylkill Co, PA (12 A, 5.5P, Deed 2:128); Bought_land
• Unknown: 10 May 1815, Upper Mahantongo Twp, Schuylkill Co, PA (86 A, 90 P, Deed 2:130); Bought_land
• Unknown: 10 May 1815, Upper Mahantongo Twp, Schuylkill Co, PA (2 A, 113 P, Deed 2:131); Bought_land
• Unknown: 10 May 1815, Upper Mahantongo Twp, Schuylkill Co, PA (13 A, 18 P, Deed 2:132); Bought_land
• Unknown: 7 Dec 1815, Upper Mahantongo Twp, Schuylkill Co, PA (50 A, 106 P, Deed 2:133); Bought_land
• Unknown: 13 Jan 1823, Little Mahanoy Twp, Northumberland Co, PA (Back Of Deed); Bought_land
• Unknown: 8 Dec 1828, Upper Mahanoy Twp, Northumberland Co, PA (Deed Y:69); Land_agreement
• Unknown: 24 Nov 1834, Little Mahanoy Twp, Northumberland Co, PA (178 A, 140 P, Deed Zz:273); Sold_land
• Unknown: 10 Oct 1843, Upper Mahanoy Twp, Northumberland Co, PA (Anthony Yoder, Ref 98:332)); Sold_land
• Unknown: 16 Oct 1844, Northumberland Co, PA; LetAdmin
• Unknown: 8 Sep 1845, Upper Mahantongo Twp, Schuylkill Co, PA (112 A, Deed 34:196); Sold_land
• Unknown: 29 Apr 1846, Upper Mahanoy Twp, Northumberland Co, PA ("A" 272/20 + "D" 16/100 + "E" 67/146, Deed 66:602); Sold_land
• Occupation: Farmer, inn keeper
• _UID: 7A9AB35F3685404B9E9FB0D57A525F88E15B

Notes:

Name Suffix: Senior

admin 3:483

1790 Census, Colebrookdale Twp, Berks Co, 1-1-2 (or 2-0-4?)
1800 Census, pg 666, Rockland Twp, Berks Co, 21110-50010
1810 Census, pg 257, Upper Mahanoy Twp, 23401-32201, inn keeper
1820 Census, pg 005, Upper Mahanoy Twp, 040001-12001-0101 (Agr.+Commerce)
1830 Census,pg 229, Upper Mahanoy Twp, 0020 3000 1-0003 0000 1
1840 Census, pg 180, UpperMahanoy Twp, 1011 1000 01-0100 101

Communicant in Reformed register of Howerter's, 29 Oct 1820

Land (LCHS):
mentioned in warrants: Misc 2, pg 13 and 19 (1793 Rockland)

Schuylkill County land:
Daniel Herb Sr Est to William Herb, 34:196, 8 Sep 1845/3 Mar 1850, Upper Mah.
Daniel Herb Sr to Michael Neuschwender, 192:410, 1837/17 Mar 1887, Upper Mah.
Mary Heath to Daniel Herb, 2:128, 24 Mar 1815/27 Apr 1816, Upper Mah.
Jacob Kantner ux to Daniel Herb, 2:130, 10 May 1815/27 Apr 1816, Upper Mah.
Abr. Zimmerman Jr to Daniel Herb, 2:133, 7Dec 1815/27 Apr 1816, Upper Mah.

at DeLongs Church, Maxatawny Accounts records:
1795, 0.3.9
Jun 1797, 0.3.9

Howerters: 1 Oct 1814, paid Daniel Herb for wine, $2.25

sp (w/Elisabeth Muthard) -> 1782, Christian Berdo and Barbara
sp (w/Rebecca Spat) -> 1784 Solomon Herb and Elisabeth

sp -> 1787 SolomonHerb and Elisabeth
sp - 1788 Jacob Eister and Barbara Herb
sp - 1789 Peter Schmidt and Elisabeth Herb
sp - 1792 Peter Herb and Elisabeth Engel single
sp - 1793 Jacob Herb and Maria Catharine (parents)

sp (Dan) -> 1793 George Langand Margaret (Heyman?), Mertz Church
sp - 1794 Johannes Becher and wf Christina (Hauck? uncle?)
sp -> 1795 Joseph Heumann and Elisabeth, DeLongs
sp - 1796Michael Lang and Susanna Herb single
sp - 1797 Jacob Herb and Catharine (parents)
sp -> 1821 Michael Zartman and Baby/Barbara [Herb]

sp -> 1826 David Yoder and Maria
sp -> 1828 George Horner and Susanna (Herb)
sp -> 1831 Wilhelm Stitzer and Lythia [Reiner]
sp -> 1831 Jacob Herb and Rebecca (Stahlman)

sp(Charlotte) -> 1843 Gideon Adam and Sarah

based on the Howerter's records, I wonder if Charlotte might
be the widow of David Groh (who ironically marrieda Charlotte Herb
11 Dec 1804 in Berks Co)

also, was Sophia the widow of Henrich Mertz?? she also disappears as
a wife of his at about the time Daniel has a wife named Sophia...

Estate records mention children (Orphan's Court April 1845):
(the order appears to be 1. living sons, 2. living daughters, 3 decd daughters, 4. decd sons)
widow Charlotte
Adam
Daniel
Samuel
William
Nathan
Eva w/o George Kessler
Judith, w/o William Roadermel
Rebecca, w/o DanielSnyder
Elizabeth w/o William Zartman, she is decd leaving Adam, Daniel, George, Abraham, Margaret, Lydia, Harriet, Abby, Mary, Sarah and Hannah
Catherine, w/o David Malich, she is decd leaving Adam, Henry, Peggy (w/o Elias Schnabel)
Lydia ___ w/o Ruben Grainger
Mary w/o Michael Zartman, she is decd leaving Lydia (w/o Daniel Wagner), Mary, Judith,
William, Margaret, Samuel, Joseph, Sarah, Henry and Catherine
Susan w/o George Herner, she is decd leaving Daniel, Abby (w/o John Arter), Judith,
George, Esther-Margaret, William and Joseph
Lydia w/o John Adam, she is decd leaving William, Rebecca, Sarah, Gabriel, John and Mary
Jacob, decd leaving Jospeh, Judith and Lydia
Henry, decd leaving Joseph, Mary and Daniel
(note: John Addams is guardian for several minor grandchildren)

Additional mention of kids is found in Orphan's Court accounting 1:418-420 for
7 Apr 1854. Seems to wrap up the finances and mentions several of theguardians
of children).

Tombstone: ... Daniel Herb Geboren den 6ten Feb 1757 _starb_ den 17ten Sep 1844
Alt 87 Yahre, 7 Mon, und __ Tage ...

in Bell's History of Northumberland County, chapter on Upper Mahanoy Twp:
"The Line Mountain Hotel was built by Daniel Herb in 1808 and opened
as a house of public entertainment in 1812. Among the landlords in the
past have been Daniel Herb, Philip Maurer, Samuel Rothermel, and Isaiah
Kiehl

Johan married Christina HEYMAN 11 Dec 1792, Schwartzwald Reformed Church, Exeter Twp, Berks Co, PA (Rev Boos). Christina (daughter of Johann Philip HEYMAN and Anna Maria HINCKEL) was born 25 Feb 1766, Maxatawny Twp, Berks Co, PA; died Abt 1822, Upper Mahanoy Twp, Northumberland Co, PA. [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• Baptism: 28 Mar 1766, Allemangel Moravian Church, Lynn Twp, Lehigh Co, PA
• _UID: FD2187ACF794432282D19824A2DFC0DE6F2B

Notes:

I had seen other speculative ID's of who Christina was. I tried following them up
but never found anything backing them up.

Daniel's wife being a Heymanis based on:

- the fact that the marriage record actually says Heuman in the one version (pronounced
in German"hoyman", with the meaning heu=hay. Hence the later variations Heyman,
Hayman, Heiman, Hoyman).
- Philip Heyman lived in Rockland according to the 1790 census. That is were
Daniel's wife was to have been from according to the marriage record
- the sponsorship of Daniel and wf (Christina) to Joseph Heuman and also to George Lang (who married a Heuman)
- the fact that Philip had a daughter Christina at just the right time

For more info on the Heyman family, see "Some Notes, Quotes, and Quips of
the Hoyman Clan and Related Lines by David L. Baldwin of 1645A 13th St NW,
Washington,DC 20009. At the time of the book, David hadn't ironed out the
roots of the family in Berks County. But combining records and looking at baptismal
sponsors, etc, we pieced together a pretty good version of the first generation of
kids in Berks County.

Notes:

Married:
By Rev Philip Pauli (1 Dec 1792)
By Rev William Boos (11 Dec 1792) at Schwarzwald Ref Church, Exeter Twp, Berks Co
(don't know why twice!) both listed as being from Rockland Twp, Berks Co.

Other Events:

• Baptism: 7 Sep 1777, Zion Lutheran Church, Zionsville, Upper Milford Twp, Lehigh Co, PA
• Confirmation: 31 Mar 1793, Lehigh Church, Lower Macungie Twp, Lehigh Co, PA
• Unknown: 15 Nov 1803, Upper Mahantongo Twp, Schuylkill Co, PA ("Nancy"); Bought_land
• Unknown: 19 May 1804, Upper Mahantongo Twp, Schuylkill Co, PA (157 A, Deed 21:30); Bought_land
• Unknown: 19 May 1804, Upper Mahantongo Twp, Schuylkill Co, PA (137 A, Deed 21:69); Sold_land
• Unknown: 19 May 1804, Upper Mahantongo Twp, Schuylkill Co, PA (20 A, Deed 21:70); Sold_land
• Unknown: 27 Jul 1833, Schuylkill Co, PA; LetAdmin
• Occupation: Farmer
• _UID: C47C25AC2ED540948806741CEAA229BA7591

Notes:

Name Suffix: Senior
admin 2:48

1800 census
1802 Tax List, Upper Mahantongo Twp
1810 census, pg 825, Upper Mahantongo Twp, 01010-10010
1820 census, pg 095, Upper Mahantongo Twp, 0000 10-0001 0
1830 census, pg 066, Upper Mahantongo Twp, 0000 0001-0000 0001
1840 census, pg 094, Upper Mahantongo Twp, 0-0100 0000 1 (Widow Klock)
1850 census (widow)?

land:
John Klock to John Hepler, 2:244, 20 Dec 1815/24 Jan 1817, Upper Mah.
John Klock to Peter Wetzel, 2:434, 14 Mar 1816/29 Dec 1817, Upper Mah.

sp -> 1806 Peter Federman and Juliana
sp -> 1807 George Dunkelberger and Elisabeth
sp -> 1808 Heinrich Kohler and Susanna
sp -> 1808 Johannes Dunkelberger and Elisabeth [s/o Christopher]
sp -> 1809 Lenhart Kerstetter and wf [Susanna Gerhard]
sp -> 1816 Hannes Dunkelberger and Susanna [Zimmerman]
sp -> 1817 Adam Slabig and Elisabeth [Klock] [d/o Peter Jr]
sp -> 1817 Hannes Dunkelberger and Catharine
sp -> 1818 Valentine Klock and Margaretha [Zerbe]
sp -> 1819 Daniel Herb and Elisabeth [Klock]
sp -> 1820 Daniel Gottschall and Hanna [Dunkelberger]
sp -> 1821 Peter Wetzel and Elisabeth
sp -> 1822 John Reiner and Elisabeth
sp -> 1822 John Klock [Jr] and Elisabeth
sp -> 1826 Abraham Zimmerman and Maria Magdalena
sp -> 1827 Jesias Geist and Elisabeth
sp -> 1828 Jacob Dunkelberger and Magdalena
sp -> 1829 Johannes Wagner and Maria Magdalena [Kramer]

This is definitely the fatherof Elizabeth Klock who married Daniel Herb since
that adminstration of John'sestate was given to the son-in-law Daniel Herb.

I wonder who were the otherchildren of John Jr. The estate of Daniel Herb
Jr (see Schuylkill Deed 109:110) mentions children:
John Smith and Judith his wife
Gideon W. Snyder and Catharine K his wife
Daniel Neishwender and Rebecca his wife
Franklin K. Herb and Lydia Ann his wife
Charles K. Herb and Magdalena his wife [heir of Charles K desc I think]
all of Schuylkill Co
and Isaac Snyder of Northumberland Co and Elisabeth his wife
to Samuel K Herb of Schuylkill Co.

The deed goes on todescribe the John Klock land that falls to these people
(via Daniel Herb Jr) and says that the first party is selling their "six ninths" part.
So that means that with Samuel, that is only 7/9ths and there are two other
heirs to the land. I'm guessing they're the descendents of John Klock, Jr.
Possibly Peter F. Klock and John F. Klock??

Johannes married Maria Magdalena DUNKELBERGER Abt 1797, Upper Mahantongo Twp, Schuylkill Co, PA. Maria (daughter of Christopher DUNKELBERGER and Elisabeth (Betty) HILL) was born 12 Feb 1777, Little Mahanoy Twp, Northumberland Co, PA; died 15 Aug 1855, Shamokin Twp, Northumberland Co, PA; was buried St. Peter's Church, Ralpho Twp, Northumberland Co, PA. [Group Sheet]

Other Events:

• Baptism: 9 May 1777, Himmel Church, Washington Twp, Northumberland Co, PA
• Unknown: 15 Feb 1856, Northumberland Co, PA; LetAdmin
• _UID: 80FBBF603AEE443F9A71C511451CAAC0F12E

Notes:

I'm still bothered by the fact that her birth date in the baptism is differentfrom
that on the tombstone. The tombstone has at St Pauls has died 15 Aug 1855,
age 77-3-3, which works out to 12 May 1778 instead of 12 Feb 1777. At least
the "12" is right, and I could take being off a year, but with the month, too, I always
have a little doubt. Still, the baptism sponsorships strongly suggest the Dunkelberger
relation. Also, someone doing the math wrong may be explainable.

A possible sceneraio is that Magdalena, who was absent in the 1850 census,
had moved up to Shamokin area with grandson Benjamin Klock. When she
died, he buried her locally and may have been off on her birth date.

4/12/00 - I found the account records for Magdalena Klock in the Northumberland
County courthouse. Isaac Snyder was the administrator (he was married to Magdalena's
granddaughter Elizabeth). Inventory was done 14 Mar 1856. Various dispersements
were made, but uncertain what happened to remainder. See Orphan's Court
accounts 2:183

Will book 4:484, 15 Feb 1856 To Isaac Snyder (Letters of Admin I believe)
(Isaac is her grandson-in-law, she was probably living withthem at the time)